Lightning Round creative analysis ·10 min ·Recorded Feb 2025

From AD to BAG : 4 Perfect Ecommerce Funnel Strategies

Aaron Orendorff of Fermàt presents a lightning-round talk titled "Getting 'Small' to Go Big," arguing that brands should personalize their ecommerce funnels along three axes: Offers, Audiences, and Value Propositions. Using funnel walkthroughs from True Classic (offers — bundle-and-save and try-before-you-buy), Laura Geller (audiences/offers — 5-minute routine, viral foundation, starter kit), Fresh Clean Threads (audiences/personas — women-to-women, women-to-men, men-to-men), and ARMRA (value propositions — hair, skin, bloating, digestion), he demonstrates how to maintain a consistent through-line from ad creative to landing page, PDP, cart upsells, and checkout. The core thesis: "Create funnels the same way you create ads."

What's discussed, in order

1 named framework

01 Getting "Small" to Go Big
A personalization strategy that aligns ad creative with the full funnel experience by segmenting campaigns along three axes, enabling Meta's algorithm to optimize more effectively.
presenter's own (Fermàt tagline: "Create funnels the saPlay

What's actually believed — in their own words

Getting small" via creative segmentation is how brands should maximize Meta rather than chasing new ad platforms.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · opinion 00:35 #

Meta is the greatest machine in the history of demand generation and demand capture ever created.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · opinion 00:55 #

True Classic is one of the fastest-growing, most successful D2C men's apparel brands in the history of the internet.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · observation 01:21 #

The True Classic bundle ad shown was originally created for last year's Valentine's Day campaign.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · fact 01:31 #

Embedding the winning ad creative onto the landing page makes the page feel like an extension of the ad.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · hypothesis 01:55 #

When ads promote bundles but landers default to single-product experiences, customers experience a "wait, what?" disconnect.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · observation 02:04 #

With still/image ads, a many-to-one funnel strategy (multiple creatives to one lander) is more common than one-to-one.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · observation 02:40 #

True Classic's "only pay for what you keep / try before you buy" is one of their most successful new customer acquisition campaigns.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · observation 02:48 #

A key reason the try-before-you-buy funnel succeeds is that it has no hoops to jump through — the $0 offer continues all the way through checkout.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · hypothesis 03:26 #

Laura Geller's 5-minute makeup routine funnel uses A+ Amazon-reminiscent content on the lander with embedded videos and checklists.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · observation 04:10 #

Laura Geller dynamically adjusts upsell price points to match the ad's entry product (higher-priced routine upsells vs. lower-priced foundation upsells).

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · observation 05:05 #

Fresh Clean Threads, traditionally male-focused, has begun launching women-selling-to-women ads as a persona expansion.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · observation 06:02 #

Fresh Clean Threads ran women-selling-to-men campaigns during the holidays, with funnels merchandising men's products despite the female-led creative.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · observation 06:40 #

The same ARMRA product can serve multiple distinct value propositions (hair, skin/beauty, bloating, digestion) through different ad/lander pairings.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · observation 08:30 #

ARMRA adapts the first product shown in the funnel (e.g., $76 jar vs. $34.67 sticks) based on the ad creative that drove the click.

Aaron Orendorff · 2025 · observation 08:12 #

The do's and don'ts pulled from the session

Do this
  • Aaron Orendorff: Build funnels with the same segmentation discipline used for ads — align creative, lander, PDP, cart, and checkout to a single offer/persona/value prop. 00:17 #
  • Aaron Orendorff: For bundle ads, merchandise the landing page so bundles appear first (single, bundle, bundle, bundle) rather than defaulting to single-product PDPs. 02:01 #
  • Aaron Orendorff: Embed the winning ad creative directly on the landing page so the page feels like an extension of the ad. 01:55 #
  • Aaron Orendorff: For try-before-you-buy offers, maintain the $0 price point all the way through checkout with no surprises. 03:07 #
  • Aaron Orendorff: Use many-to-one funnel architecture when running many static creatives: let multiple ads point to a single, clearly connected lander. 02:45 #
  • Aaron Orendorff: Match cart/PDP upsells to the entry creative — use higher-priced complementary upsells for kits, lower-priced accessories for single products. 05:05 #
  • Aaron Orendorff: Launch persona-specific ads (women-to-women, women-to-men, men-to-men) and merchandise the downstream funnel to match the target gender's products. 06:02 #
  • Aaron Orendorff: Test multiple value propositions for a single product by pairing dedicated ads with dedicated "5/10 reasons why" advertorial landers. 08:22 #
  • Aaron Orendorff: Adapt the first product displayed in the embedded PDP to match the SKU or flavor featured in the ad (jar vs. sticks). 08:12 #
Don't do this
  • Aaron Orendorff: Running a bundle-focused ad that drops customers onto a single-product PDP, creating a "wait, what? I was looking at bundles" disconnect. 02:04 #
  • Aaron Orendorff: Chasing new ad platforms instead of milking Meta via better creative segmentation. 00:35 #
  • Aaron Orendorff: Adding hoops (forms, surprises, changed pricing) between a risk-free front-end offer and checkout. 03:26 #

Numbers quoted in this talk

**Stat**: True Classic "Classic 3-Pack" checkout total shown at $59.99.
2025 · #
**Source**: On-screen in funnel walkthrough.
2025 · #
**Timestamp**:
2025 · 02:20 #
**Stat**: ARMRA Immune Revival jar priced at $76; new single-flavor sticks priced at $34.67.
2025 · #
**Source**: Speaker stated while showing PDPs.
2025 · #
**Timestamp**:
2025 · 08:15 #
**Stat**: Fresh Clean Threads women's/men's 5-packs checkout total shown at $88.00.
2025 · #
**Source**: On-screen in funnel walkthrough.
2025 · #
**Timestamp**:
2025 · 06:20 #
**Stat**: True Classic "Try Before You Buy" ad references "150K customers" on creative.
2025 · #
**Source**: On-screen ad copy.
2025 · #
**Timestamp**:
2025 · 02:39 #
**Stat**: Laura Geller TikTok ad copy claims "7 million happy customers / 7 million fans agree."
2025 · #
**Source**: On-screen ad copy.
2025 · #
**Timestamp**:
2025 · 04:39 #

Everything referenced on-screen and by name

People mentioned (excluding speakers listed above)

  • Barry — unspecified role, referenced as a peer/speaker — neutral — Aaron jokes "I am a shill. Barry's not" and hopes Barry was involved in the "Have you pooped yet?" ARMRA ad.

Brands / companies referenced

  • Fermàt — Speaker's company; provides embedded landing page / funnel technology.
  • True Classic — D2C men's apparel; case study for Offers (bundle + try-before-you-buy).
  • Laura Geller Beauty — Mature-skin cosmetics brand; case study bridging offers and personas.
  • Fresh Clean Threads — Apparel brand; case study for Audiences/Personas.
  • ARMRA — Colostrum supplement brand; case study for Value Propositions.
  • Amazon — Referenced only as a stylistic comparison ("A+ Amazon reminiscent content").
  • TikTok — Platform where Laura Geller's foundation ad went viral.
  • Sponsor logos shown in closing reel: Vuori, Hexclad, Jones Road, MUD\WTR, MuteSix, Ridge, Wpromote, Power.

Tools / products referenced (excluding Motion)

  • Meta — Ad platform (Facebook/Instagram); described as "the greatest machine in the history of demand generation."

External frameworks / concepts cited

  • "5 reasons why" / "10 reasons why" advertorial lander format — Referenced as an ARMRA and Laura Geller tactic.
  • A+ Content (Amazon) — Referenced as a stylistic comparison for landing page structure.

13 ads referenced

Show all 13 ads with extraction details
Ad #1 — True Classic Valentine's Day
True Classic ·Video (UGC compilation) ·01:27
Duration shown in this video
40 seconds
Hook (first 3 sec)
A woman hugs a man wearing a t-shirt. On-screen text reads: "He's never looked so good." and "The perfect fit: I want to hug him all the time".
Product / pitch
T-shirts for men that provide a better, more flattering fit than other brands.
Key on-screen text
"He's never looked so good.", "The perfect fit:", "I want to hug him all the time", "and they show off his arms and shoulders", "while leaving perfect wiggle room where he wants it", "He now looks so sexy", "Whatever he does", "Get him to look good and feel good!", "BUNDLE & SAVE", "If your man looks baggy in his clothes, you need to get him True Classic", "BEFORE", "AFTER", "This shirt saved our relationship".
Key spoken lines
Music with text overlays.
Visual style
UGC, compilation of testimonials and before/after shots.
CTA / offer (if shown)
"The True Shirt It All: Buy More, Save More", "Shop Now"
Narrative arc
A series of short clips showing different men looking good in the t-shirts, often with their partners, interspersed with before/after comparisons and benefit-driven text.
Why shown in this video
To illustrate a "one-for-one" example where the ad's offer ("Bundle & Save") is consistently carried through the entire funnel, from the landing page to the cart and checkout.
Speaker's take
"This is a one-for-one example. Very obvious when you look at the creative and the experience on the landing page... you go right into a page with single shirt, bundle, bundle, bundle... arranged to 'buy more, save more'."
Ad #2 — True Classic Try Before You Buy
True Classic ·Image (static ad) ·02:39
Duration shown in this video
28 seconds
Hook (first 3 sec)
A red banner with white text reads "TRY BEFORE YOU BUY!". Below, an image of folded t-shirts has the text "ONLY PAY FOR WHAT YOU KEEP" overlaid.
Product / pitch
A risk-free "try before you buy" offer for their t-shirts, targeting new customers.
Key on-screen text
"STOP THE SEARCH! You've found the perfect fit.", "Timeless style", "Ultra-comfort", "Insane value", "TRY BEFORE YOU BUY!", "ONLY PAY FOR WHAT YOU KEEP", "RISK FREE!", "Try before you buy your first tee!", "150K customers", "A Classic Deal for First-Timers!".
Key spoken lines
None used
Visual style
Polished product shots with bold graphic text overlays.
CTA / offer (if shown)
"TRY BEFORE YOU BUY!", "Shop Now"
Narrative arc
None observable
Why shown in this video
To demonstrate a "many-to-one" strategy, where multiple different static ad creatives all drive traffic to a single, consistent, and frictionless offer funnel.
Speaker's take
"More often than not though, especially when you're using stills, what you're going to be doing is many to one... In the case of True Classic, this is one of their most successful new customer acquisition campaigns. It's the 'only pay for what you keep, try before you buy'... they've loaded up multiple types of creative... all driving to this very clearly connected 'try before you buy' lander..."
Ad #3 — Laura Geller 5-Minute Makeup Routine
Laura Geller Beauty ·Image (static ad) ·03:45
Duration shown in this video
27 seconds
Hook (first 3 sec)
A grid-style image shows various makeup products with numbers indicating their use order. A large headline reads "THE 5 MINUTE MAKEUP ROUTINE".
Product / pitch
A makeup kit designed for a quick, 5-minute routine.
Key on-screen text
"Time to simplify your everyday makeup! Laura Geller's Daily Routine Kit has everything you need... at a fantastic value!", "What's inside:", "THE 5 MINUTE MAKEUP ROUTINE", "This look is easy-peasy! All-in-One Convenience".
Key spoken lines
None used
Visual style
Polished product grid/graphic.
CTA / offer (if shown)
"Shop Now"
Narrative arc
None observable
Why shown in this video
To introduce the concept of personas and show how an ad's specific theme (a 5-minute routine) is carried through the entire funnel, including the upsells.
Speaker's take
"Laura Geller... here we're moving into personas... the five-minute makeup routine... from the grid five-minute makeup routine to a landing page built exactly off of it, walking through what that routine looks like..."
Ad #4 — Laura Geller Viral TikTok Foundation
Laura Geller Beauty ·Video (TikTok-style UGC) ·04:39
Duration shown in this video
14 seconds
Hook (first 3 sec)
A woman talks to the camera in a split-screen format. Text overlay reads: "without the need for constant touchups".
Product / pitch
The Baked Balance-n-Brighten Color Correcting Foundation, which went viral on TikTok.
Key on-screen text
"7 million happy customers can't...", "7 million fans agree...", "without the need for constant touchups", "it won't dry out your skin", "unlike some other powder makeup", "it keeps my skin looking fresh", "creamy and velvety texture", "How's it in a powder form?", "I have no idea", "All I know is, Laura Geller knows what they're doing".
Key spoken lines
"without the need for constant touchups... it won't dry out your skin... unlike some other powder makeup... it keeps my skin looking fresh... creamy and velvety texture... How's it in a powder form? I have no idea. All I know is Laura Geller knows what they're doing..."
Visual style
UGC, split-screen, talking head/demo.
CTA / offer (if shown)
"Shop Now"
Narrative arc
A user testimonial explaining the unique benefits and "magic" of the powder foundation.
Why shown in this video
To show how a different creative for a different product leads to a different, tailored funnel with different (lower-priced) upsells compared to the previous example.
Speaker's take
"This is an example of a different product, different type of creative, why this one went viral on TikTok... in this case what they're doing is they've actually dropped the upsell prices... instead of the higher price point upsells that took place with the routine."
Ad #5 — Laura Geller Baked Starter Kit
Laura Geller Beauty ·Image (static ad) ·05:12
Duration shown in this video
15 seconds
Hook (first 3 sec)
An image of a makeup kit with a text overlay that reads: "This makeup kit was made SPECIFICALLY for mature skin".
Product / pitch
A "Baked Starter Kit" of makeup products specifically targeted towards women with mature skin.
Key on-screen text
"New to bake-off? We've got you covered!", "Save $100+", "FREE", "This makeup kit was made SPECIFICALLY for mature skin", "Let your bake-off begin!".
Key spoken lines
None used
Visual style
Polished product shot with graphic text overlays.
CTA / offer (if shown)
"Shop Now"
Narrative arc
None observable
Why shown in this video
To show another example of matching a specific ad (a starter kit) to a specific landing page ("5 Reasons Why the Baked Starter Kit Keeps Selling Out") and a tailored funnel.
Speaker's take
"This is their Baked Starter Kit... still creative on the front end, going into the landing page... this is more of that advertorial '5 reasons why'."
Ad #6 — Fresh Clean Threads for Women
Fresh Clean Threads ·Video (UGC compilation) ·06:02
Duration shown in this video
18 seconds
Hook (first 3 sec)
A woman is shown smiling. Text overlay: "You're a strong woman and you deserve to look and feel amazing too."
Product / pitch
T-shirts for women, focusing on a flattering fit that smooths "back rolls" and boosts confidence.
Key on-screen text
"You're a strong woman and you deserve to look and feel amazing too.", "but they feel amazing too!", "Their unique cotton-blend is buttery soft.", "My husband asked 'did you lose weight?'", "BEFORE", "AFTER", "has THE MOST flattering t-shirts out there!", "Generic women's tees used to cling to my body", "They'd give me back rolls and highlight all my insecurities!", "My confidence SKY ROCKETED!".
Key spoken lines
"but they feel amazing too... their unique cotton blend is buttery soft... if you want to look and feel your best, order from Fresh Clean Threads... My husband asked, 'did you lose weight?'... has the most flattering t-shirts out there..."
Visual style
UGC, compilation of testimonials and demos.
CTA / offer (if shown)
"New Women's Tees", "Shop Now"
Narrative arc
A series of testimonials and before/afters from women explaining how the t-shirts solved common fit problems and made them feel more confident.
Why shown in this video
To illustrate targeting a new persona (women) for a traditionally male-focused brand, and matching the creative, landing page, and entire funnel to that specific audience.
Speaker's take
"By going small to go big, what I mean is what Fresh Clean Threads has begun to do is launch women selling to women ads, then hitting a landing page that's re-emphasizing very clearly who that demographic is..."
Ad #7 — Fresh Clean Threads (Gift for Men)
Fresh Clean Threads ·Video (UGC) ·06:40
Duration shown in this video
10 seconds
Hook (first 3 sec)
A man and woman are talking to the camera together, with the woman explaining the difficulty of finding t-shirts that fit him.
Product / pitch
Men's t-shirts, positioned as a gift that women can buy for men, solving common fit issues.
Key on-screen text
"finding t-shirts that will actually fit him", "either it's too short or too boxy", "but this one, it was made for him", "they hug his arms and it's relaxed on the midsection", "so it's super comfortable", "and I'm not even kidding the fabric is amazing".
Key spoken lines
"...finding t-shirts that will actually fit him... either it's too short or too boxy... but this one, it was made for him... they hug his arms and it's relaxed on the midsection... so it's super comfortable..."
Visual style
UGC, couple testimonial/demo.
CTA / offer (if shown)
"Style Simplified: Versatile Looks for Everyday", "Shop Now"
Narrative arc
A couple explains the problem of ill-fitting men's shirts and how this brand solves it.
Why shown in this video
To show another persona-based strategy: targeting women to purchase products for men, with a funnel that then correctly displays the men's products.
Speaker's take
"They did the same thing over the holidays with women selling to men in this case... so we've got that matching creative... and then on to, if it's women selling to men, it's male products that are then on the PDP..."
Ad #8 — Fresh Clean Threads for Men
Fresh Clean Threads ·Video (UGC) ·06:59
Duration shown in this video
9 seconds
Hook (first 3 sec)
A man talks to the camera, flexing and showing off the fit of his t-shirt.
Product / pitch
The brand's core offering: well-fitting t-shirts for men.
Key on-screen text
"Show off your hard work with tees that fit your body...", "she showed me how much a t-shirt could be absolutely stylish and fashionable at the same time.", "They fit perfectly on the waist and on the chest...".
Key spoken lines
"...she showed me how much a t-shirt could be absolutely stylish and fashionable at the same time... they fit perfectly on the waist and on the chest, leaving a little bit of room..."
Visual style
UGC, talking head/demo.
CTA / offer (if shown)
"Strong Dads, Strong Tees", "Shop Now"
Narrative arc
A man explains how the t-shirts are both stylish and fit well.
Why shown in this video
To show the brand's "bread and butter" creative (men selling to men) and how it's matched across the funnel.
Speaker's take
"But of course, we've also got their bread and butter staple, which is men selling to men, matching on the PDP across the board."
Ad #9 — ARMRA (General Health)
ARMRA ·Image (static ad) ·07:14
Duration shown in this video
24 seconds
Hook (first 3 sec)
A product shot with a large testimonial overlay: "I've noticed a difference in my digestion, and my skin has never looked better!".
Product / pitch
A colostrum supplement for general health benefits like digestion and skin.
Key on-screen text
"I've noticed a difference in my digestion, and my skin has never looked better!", "50% OFF", "We keep selling out for a reason.".
Key spoken lines
None used
Visual style
Polished product shot with graphic text overlays.
CTA / offer (if shown)
"Shop Now"
Narrative arc
None observable
Why shown in this video
To introduce the concept of targeting different value propositions, starting with a general "5 benefits" approach.
Speaker's take
"This is one of ARMRA's top-performing ads. Very simple... it's the information, '5 Benefits of ARMRA'... a take on the '5 reasons why'."
Ad #10 — ARMRA (Hair Growth)
ARMRA ·Image (static ad) ·08:22
Duration shown in this video
5 seconds
Hook (first 3 sec)
A product shot with a testimonial overlay: "Love it, my hair is feeling a lot thicker post-menopause than it was prior!".
Product / pitch
ARMRA colostrum specifically for promoting thicker, fuller hair.
Key on-screen text
"Love it, my hair is feeling a lot thicker post-menopause than it was prior!".
Key spoken lines
None used
Visual style
Polished product shot with graphic text overlays.
CTA / offer (if shown)
"Get 30% Off Your First Order Today", "Learn more"
Narrative arc
None observable
Why shown in this video
To demonstrate how the same product can be marketed with different ads and landing pages that focus on a single, specific value proposition (hair growth).
Speaker's take
"They've also identified that their same product can serve various value propositions, that in this case relate directly to hair..."
Ad #11 — ARMRA (Skin Health)
ARMRA ·Image (static ad) ·08:37
Duration shown in this video
3 seconds
Hook (first 3 sec)
A product shot with a large, bold headline asking "Bleh Skin?".
Product / pitch
ARMRA colostrum specifically for improving skin health.
Key on-screen text
"Bleh Skin?".
Key spoken lines
None used
Visual style
Polished product shot with graphic text overlays.
CTA / offer (if shown)
"Get 30% Off Your First Order Today", "Learn more"
Narrative arc
None observable
Why shown in this video
To provide another example of targeting a specific value proposition (skin/beauty).
Speaker's take
"...it also relates to beauty and skin..."
Ad #12 — ARMRA (Bloating)
ARMRA ·Image (static ad) ·08:40
Duration shown in this video
2 seconds
Hook (first 3 sec)
An image of a woman's midsection in compression socks with a testimonial overlay.
Product / pitch
ARMRA colostrum specifically for combating bloating.
Key on-screen text
"Kiss goodbye to bloating, constipation, and feeling tired and heavy.", "I wore it on my belly... I mean, I just feel so much better...".
Key spoken lines
None used
Visual style
Lifestyle image with graphic text overlays.
CTA / offer (if shown)
"30% off First Auto Ship Order", "Learn more"
Narrative arc
None observable
Why shown in this video
To provide a third example of targeting a specific value proposition (bloating).
Speaker's take
"...and it also relates to bloating."
Ad #13 — ARMRA (Digestive Health)
ARMRA ·Image (static ad) ·08:50
Duration shown in this video
3 seconds
Hook (first 3 sec)
An image of a billboard with the question "HAVE YOU POOPED YET?".
Product / pitch
ARMRA colostrum for digestive health and regularity.
Key on-screen text
"HAVE YOU POOPED YET?", "Combat Bloating. Feel Lighter.".
Key spoken lines
None used
Visual style
Mockup of a billboard ad.
CTA / offer (if shown)
"Learn more"
Narrative arc
None observable
Why shown in this video
The speaker shows it as a favorite, amusing example of a bold value proposition.
Speaker's take
"And then this is just one of my favorites that in my heart of hearts I really hope that Barry had something to do with. 'Have you pooped yet?' Just one of my favorites, right?"

20 slides, in order

Show all 20 slides with full slide content
Slide #1 — Title Slide
image+text ·00:02, revisited 08:58 ·Play
Title / header text
Getting “Small” to Go Big
Body content
• Personal(ization) Through Your • Offers, Audiences & Value Propositions • [Yellow bar] Create funnels the same way you create ads
Embedded data (charts/tables)
None used
Embedded examples
• Video feed of speaker "Evan Lee" • Video feed of speaker "Aaron Orendorff"
Annotations / visual emphasis
None used
Reveal state
None used
Re-reference
At 08:58, the slide returns to conclude the presentation.
Speaker's framing
"So my big idea here today is uh, getting small to go big, uh, personalization."
Slide #2 — Three Big Ideas
image+text ·00:28 ·Play
Title / header text
Getting “Small” to Go Big
Body content
• Personal(ization) Through Your • **Offers, Audiences & Value Propositions** • [Yellow bar] Create funnels the same way you create ads
Embedded data (charts/tables)
None used
Embedded examples
• Video feed of speaker "Aaron Orendorff"
Annotations / visual emphasis
The text "Offers, Audiences & Value Propositions" is highlighted in white, while "Personal(ization) Through Your" is faded.
Reveal state
This is an animated reveal from the previous slide.
Re-reference
None used
Speaker's framing
"The three big ideas are going to be offers, audiences, and value propositions."
Slide #3 — True Classic Homepage
screenshot-with-annotations ·01:11 ·Play
Title / header text
None used
Body content
None used
Embedded data (charts/tables)
None used
Embedded examples
• Screenshot of the True Classic website homepage. It shows a man in a baggy red t-shirt ("Other Brands") next to a man in a fitted white t-shirt ("TRUE CLASSIC").
Annotations / visual emphasis
None used
Re-reference
None used
Speaker's framing
"First up is going to be True Classic, probably needs no introduction, right?"
Slide #4 — True Classic Funnel: Bundle & Save
screenshot-with-annotations ·01:27 ·Play
Title / header text
None used
Body content
None used
Embedded data (charts/tables)
None used
Embedded examples
Panel 1 (Ad)
Facebook video ad showing couples, with text overlays like "He's never looked so good." and "The perfect fit:". The CTA is "Get Started! Buy More, Save More".
Panel 2 (Landing Page)
A landing page that mimics the video ad experience, featuring a video and a "Shop the Collection" button.
Panel 3 (Product Detail Page)
A pop-up PDP for "The Classic 3-Pack".
Panel 4 (Cart)
A pop-up cart showing "The Classic 3-Pack" with an upsell suggestion.
Panel 5 (Checkout)
The final checkout page with a total of $59.99.
Annotations / visual emphasis
A white highlight box appears around the "Shop the Collection" button in Panel 2 (Landing Page) at 01:52.
Re-reference
None used
Speaker's framing
"This ad that I'm showing you right here, uh, originally created for last year's Valentine's Day campaign."
Slide #5 — True Classic Funnel: Try Before You Buy
screenshot-with-annotations ·02:39 ·Play
Title / header text
None used
Body content
None used
Embedded data (charts/tables)
None used
Embedded examples
Panel 1 (Ad)
Facebook static ad with red background. Text: "TRY BEFORE YOU BUY!", "ONLY PAY FOR WHAT YOU KEEP".
Panel 2 (Landing Page)
A landing page with the headline "TRY BEFORE YOU BUY: YOUR NEW FAVORITE TEE." and a "SHOP NOW" button.
Panel 3 (Product Detail Page)
A pop-up PDP for a "Crew Neck T-Shirt" priced at $0, with checkboxes for "Try before you buy" and "Only pay for what you keep".
Panel 4 (Cart)
A pop-up cart showing the "Crew Neck T-Shirt" with an upsell suggestion.
Panel 5 (Checkout)
The final checkout page with "Amount due today $0.00".
Annotations / visual emphasis
None used
Re-reference
None used
Speaker's framing
"In the case of True Classic, this is one of their most successful new customer acquisition campaigns. It's the 'only pay for what you keep, try before you buy'."
Slide #6 — Laura Geller Homepage
screenshot-with-annotations ·03:36 ·Play
Title / header text
None used
Body content
None used
Embedded data (charts/tables)
None used
Embedded examples
• Screenshot of the Laura Geller website homepage. Headline: "MAKEUP MADE FOR MATURE SKIN".
Annotations / visual emphasis
None used
Re-reference
None used
Speaker's framing
"Laura Geller, and I love this."
Slide #7 — Laura Geller Funnel: 5 Minute Makeup Routine
screenshot-with-annotations ·03:45 ·Play
Title / header text
None used
Body content
None used
Embedded data (charts/tables)
None used
Embedded examples
Panel 1 (Ad)
Facebook ad with a grid image of makeup products. Headline: "THE 5 MINUTE MAKEUP ROUTINE".
Panel 2 (Landing Page)
A landing page with the headline "Does Your Makeup Routine Take More Than 5 Minutes?".
Panel 3 (Product Detail Page)
A pop-up PDP for the "Daily Routine: Natural Finish Full Face Kit".
Panel 4 (Add to Bag)
A pop-up showing "Added to bag" with "Most frequently bought together" upsell suggestions.
Panel 5 (Checkout)
The final checkout page with a total of $43.20.
Annotations / visual emphasis
None used
Re-reference
None used
Speaker's framing
"Look at that, the five-minute makeup routine. Okay, so I'm going to show you what the rest of the story looks like from this grid ad."
Slide #8 — Laura Geller Funnel: Baked Balance-n-Brighten
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A landing page with the headline "Fabulous Make-up".
Panel 3 (Product Detail Page)
A pop-up PDP for "Baked Balance-n-Brighten Color Correcting Foundation".
Panel 4 (Add to Bag)
A pop-up showing "Added to bag" with "Most frequently bought together" upsell suggestions (Blending Brushes, The Ideal Fix Concealer).
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The final checkout page with a total of $19.44.
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"Now this is an example of a different product, different type of creative, why this one went viral on TikTok."
Slide #9 — Laura Geller Funnel: Baked Starter Kit
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A landing page with the headline "5 Reasons Why the Baked Starter Kit Keeps Selling Out".
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A pop-up PDP for the "Baked Starter Kit (8PC)".
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A pop-up showing "Added to bag" with "Most frequently bought together" upsell suggestions.
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The final checkout page with a total of $63.
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"...and we're going to see something really, really similar as well in this third example from Laura Geller where this is their Baked Starter Kit."
Slide #10 — Fresh Clean Threads Homepage
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"Fresh Clean Threads. Fresh Clean Threads also probably needs no introduction..."
Slide #11 — Fresh Clean Threads Funnel: Women's Tees
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A landing page with the headline "Bye-Bye Back Rolls: Tees That Smooth Where It Counts!".
Panel 3 (Product Detail Page)
A pop-up PDP for "Women's V-Neck 5-Pack".
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A pop-up cart with an upsell suggestion for "Women's Best Sellers Crew 5-Pack".
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The final checkout page with a total of $88.00.
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"...what Fresh Clean Threads has begun to do is launch women selling to women ads..."
Slide #12 — Fresh Clean Threads Funnel: Men's Tees (Women Gifting)
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A landing page showing a man wearing a t-shirt with a pop-up for "Best Sellers 5-Pack".
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A pop-up PDP for "Best Sellers Polo 5-Pack".
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A pop-up cart with an upsell suggestion for "Best Sellers Polo 5-Pack".
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"They did the same thing over the holidays with women selling to men in this case."
Slide #13 — ARMRA Homepage
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Slide #14 — ARMRA Funnel: 5 Benefits
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A pop-up PDP for "Immune Revival".
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"So, uh, this is one of ARMRA's top performing ads. Very simple..."
Slide #15 — ARMRA Funnel: 10 Reasons
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Panel 3 (Product Detail Page)
A pop-up PDP for "Immune Revival".
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Slide #16 — ARMRA Funnel: New Flavor Launch
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"Then they take their top performers, and when they launch new products... they look at this, look at this, just a simple change in the background to now their new flavor that's been launched."
Slide #17 — ARMRA Funnel: Hair Value Proposition
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A landing page with the headline "5 Reasons Why ARMRA Colostrum Works to Grow Thicker, Fuller Hair".
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A pop-up PDP for "Immune Revival".
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"But this is where these people get so freaking clever because it's not just five or ten general reasons. They've also identified that their same product can serve various value propositions, that in this case relate directly to hair..."
Slide #18 — ARMRA Funnel: Skin Value Proposition
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A pop-up PDP for "Immune Revival".
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"...it also relates to beauty and skin..."
Slide #19 — ARMRA Funnel: Bloating Value Proposition
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A pop-up PDP for "Immune Revival".
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"...and it also relates to bloating."
Slide #20 — ARMRA Funnel: "Have You Pooped Yet?"
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A landing page with the headline "ARMRA Is Freeing People from Bloating For Good. And Keeps Selling Out."
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A pop-up PDP for "Immune Revival".
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A pop-up cart with an upsell suggestion.
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The final checkout page with a total of $103.27.
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"And then this is just one of my favorites that in my heart of hearts I really hope that uh, Barry had something to do with, 'Have you pooped yet?'"

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Motion logo on a black background. The logo is three overlapping purple rectangles next to the word "Motion" in white.

Aaron Orendorff: So my big idea here today is uh, getting small to go big.

A presentation slide. The title is "Getting 'Small' to Go Big" in large yellow font. Below that, "Personal(ization) Through Your Offers, Audiences & Value Propositions". At the bottom, in a yellow bar, is the text "Create funnels the same way you create ads". In the top left corner is a video feed of a man labeled "Evan Lee". Below that is a video feed of the speaker, labeled "Aaron Orendorff".

Aaron Orendorff: Uh, personalization, okay? So I'm gonna walk you through not just uh, a number of ads, but also a number of funnels because, ha ha, spoiler, at Fermot, our tagline is create funnels the same way you create ads. This is a twofer. I'm gonna give you value, and I'm gonna dress it all up in the thing that we sell. You ready for this? All right. I am a shill. Barry's not, I am. Let's roll.

The slide text fades slightly, and the words "Offers, Audiences & Value Propositions" are highlighted in a brighter white.

Aaron Orendorff: The three big ideas are gonna be offers, audiences, and value propositions. Aligning, focusing, not this siren call off of, I would say, meta into new ad platforms, but milking meta for as much as it is freaking worth. And the key to that is in your creative, going small to identify the offers, audiences, and value propositions that the machine, the greatest machine in the history of demand generation and demand capture that has ever been created, meta, can do its thing well. So that hinges on creative, but I'm gonna break it down throughout the funnel, offers, audiences, and value propositions, okay? Now, to do this, I'm gonna dress it up in some real brand clothes. Haha, pun intended.

Screenshot of the True Classic website homepage. It shows a side-by-side comparison of a man wearing a baggy red t-shirt ("Other Brands") and the same man in a well-fitting white t-shirt ("TRUE CLASSIC").

Aaron Orendorff: First up is gonna be True Classic. Probably needs no introduction, right? One of the fastest growing, most successful D to C men's apparel brands in the history of all things internet, right? Now, this ad that I'm showing you right here, uh,

A screen recording of a full user journey. On the far left is a Facebook video ad for True Classic playing. The ad features various men and women talking about how great the shirts fit. The next four panels to the right show the corresponding landing page, product detail page, shopping cart, and checkout page for the True Classic website.

Aaron Orendorff: originally created for last year's Valentine's Day campaign. So there's a a couple vibe to it. Opens with this sort of ego stroking, and then all throughout the ad, I'm showing here on the left, you'll notice there's this emphasis not on single products, but bundle and save. It's inside of the CTA. And what we do at Fermot is allow you to take that exact same creative, just like True Classic has done here, embed it onto the page so it feels like an extension of that winning ad, and then merchandise it so that instead of going from the wait, what? I was looking at bundles, where are the bundles? Now it's a single sweatshirt kind of feel that often happens. You go right into a page with single shirt, bundle, bundle, bundle, arranged to buy more, save more. Now, it's the same thing when you go inside of the embedded PDP. You get the same thing when you go inside of the cart so that you've got like the three pack, upsell to six, upsell to nine, and then off into checkout, okay? Now, this is a one for one example. Very obvious when you look at the creative and the experience on the landing page.

A new user journey is shown. On the left is a static Facebook ad for True Classic with the headline "ONLY PAY FOR WHAT YOU KEEP". The next four panels show the corresponding landing page, PDP, cart, and checkout for a "Try Before You Buy" offer.

Aaron Orendorff: More often than not though, especially when you're using stills, what you're gonna be doing is many to one. So in the case of True Classic, this is one of their most successful new customer acquisition campaigns. It's the only pay for what you keep, try before you buy. So they've loaded up multiple types of creative, uh, multiple, uh, images, uh, body copy, all driving to this very clearly connected try before you buy lander into a zero dollar product that carries on through to the cart with those bundle upsells we saw. And then no surprises when you hit checkout, it's still a zero dollar product ready and waiting for you there. This is one of the reasons that it's such a successful new customer acquisition is there's no hoops to jump through. It is simply a continuation of the offer on the front end all the way through, right? That's many to one.

Screenshot of the Laura Geller website homepage. The headline is "MAKEUP MADE FOR MATURE SKIN".

Aaron Orendorff: Now, Laura Geller, and I love this. Uh, I think she already bounced from backstage, but this very first example from Laura Geller, here we're moving into personas, right?

A user journey for Laura Geller. The left panel shows a Facebook ad for "THE 5 MINUTE MAKEUP ROUTINE". The subsequent panels show the corresponding landing page, PDP, cart with upsells, and checkout.

Aaron Orendorff: Look at that. The five minute makeup routine, okay? So I'm gonna show you what the rest of the story looks like from this grid ad. Right into from the the grid five minute makeup routine to a landing page built exactly off of it, walking through what that routine looks like, embedded videos, checklists, right? Buy box, A plus Amazon reminiscent content into a PDP for the exact same item. And then what I want you to pay attention to here with Laura Geller, and I'm gonna show you a couple more examples from them in just a second, is that the upsells, in the case of the add to bag triggered, what we've got is the baked and brilliant color correcting foundation followed by brushes that are then also upsold once you hit the cart itself. So that uh, fourth panel right there is a really powerful two for one, building on top of the routine that brought them in to begin with.

A new user journey for Laura Geller. The left panel shows a TikTok-style video ad for "Baked Balance-n-Brighten Color Correcting Foundation". The subsequent panels show the corresponding landing page, PDP, cart with upsells, and checkout.

Aaron Orendorff: Now, this is an example of a different product, different type of creative, why this one went viral on TikTok. This is the baked in brilliant color correcting foundation. So one item, continuation from the ad to the landing page, on into the product page. And in this case, what they're doing is they've actually dropped the upsell prices. So it's just the blending brush set to go with it, and then a concealer instead of the higher price point upsells that took place with the routine.

A third user journey for Laura Geller. The left panel shows a static Facebook ad for the "Baked Starter Kit". The subsequent panels show the corresponding landing page, PDP, cart with upsells, and checkout.

Aaron Orendorff: And we're gonna see something really, really similar as well in this third example from Laura Geller where this is their baked starter kit, right? So, still creative on the front end, going into the landing page. This is more of that advertorial five reasons why. Same thing happens here in the PDP, but notice that the the PDP upsell and on into cart has now been matching the actual shade and then the brush upsell, okay? Now, I may be giving new meaning to the phrase lightning round, but we're gonna keep going.

Screenshot of the Fresh Clean Threads website homepage, showing a banner for the "WINTER COLLECTION".

Aaron Orendorff: That that was offers. Now we're into personas, okay? Fresh Clean Threads. Fresh Clean Threads also probably needs no introduction, very similar to True Classic. You can see here on their homepage, this is live, Valentine's Day sale, predominantly focused on a male demographic, okay?

A user journey for Fresh Clean Threads. The left panel shows a video ad featuring women talking about the shirts. The headline is "New Women's Tees". The subsequent panels show the corresponding landing page, PDP, cart, and checkout, all focused on women's apparel.

Aaron Orendorff: So, by going small to go big, what I mean is what Fresh Clean Threads has begun to do is launch women selling to women ads, then hitting a landing page that's reemphasizing very clearly who that demographic is and the driving value proposition behind it, so that it's merchandised with the female product front and center. We go into the PDP that's there, same thing, women's five pack V-neck added to, gets the crew five pack as the upsell.

A new user journey for Fresh Clean Threads. The left panel shows a video ad featuring a man and a woman, with the woman speaking about the man's shirt. The subsequent panels show the corresponding landing page, PDP, cart, and checkout, all focused on men's apparel.

Aaron Orendorff: So this is, this is what I mean by personas, matching that creative that can go find your audience to the experience of what happens next. They did the same thing over the holidays with women selling to men in this case, right?

A third user journey for Fresh Clean Threads. The left panel shows a video ad featuring a man talking about the shirts. The headline is "Strong Dads, Strong Tees". The subsequent panels show the corresponding landing page, PDP, cart, and checkout, all focused on men's apparel.

Aaron Orendorff: So we've got that matching creative between the two to begin with, and then on to, if it's women selling to men, right? It's male products that are then on the PDP as well in the shopping cart itself. But of course, we've also got their bread and butter staple, which is men selling to men, matching on the PDP across the board. All right.

Screenshot of the ARMRA website homepage. The headline is "Your Revival of Health".

Aaron Orendorff: Value propositions. What do I mean by value propositions? Let me give you an example from uh, ARMRA and a few of these, okay?

A user journey for ARMRA. The left panel shows a static Facebook ad. The next panel is a landing page titled "5 Benefits of ARMRA That Have Everyone Ditching Their Supplement Routine". The subsequent panels show the PDP, cart, and checkout.

Aaron Orendorff: So, uh, this is one of ARMRA's top performing ads. Very simple, and they've seated their account with a lot of contenders to this simplicity. Some of them are video creative as well. But it's the information, five benefits of ARMRA, it's kind of a take on the five reasons why. They experiment a lot with matching the hook and the content on the lander to their top performing creative.

A new user journey for ARMRA. The left panel shows a different static ad. The next panel is a landing page titled "10 Reasons Why ARMRA Is Threatening The Entire Health Supplement Industry. And Keeps Selling Out."

Aaron Orendorff: This goes into the length that takes place on a landing page from five reasons to 10 reasons why.

A third user journey for ARMRA. The left panel shows a static ad for a new flavor, "Arctic Chai". The next panel is the "10 Reasons" landing page. The third and fourth panels show two different PDPs side-by-side for comparison: one for the "Immune Revival" jar and one for the "Immune Revival" sticks.

Aaron Orendorff: Then they take their top performers, and when they launch new products, they look at this, look at this, just a simple change in the background, to now their new flavor that's been launched. And when you hit the embedded PDP, this is the comparison between on the right, the immune revival jar, $76 price point versus the new single product flavored drop, it's sticks for 34.67. So they're adapting the first product that you see through the funnel to match what takes place in the ad account, on that hero section of the landing page, and then on into cart.

A collage of three different ARMRA ads on the left, each with a corresponding landing page to its right. The ads and landing pages focus on different value propositions: hair growth, skin health ("Bleh Skin?"), and bloating.

Aaron Orendorff: But this is where these people get so freaking clever because it's not just five or 10 general reasons. They've also identified that their same product can serve various value propositions that in this case relate directly to hair. It also relates to beauty and skin, and it also relates to bloating.

A final static ad for ARMRA is shown. It's a picture of a billboard with the text "HAVE YOU POOPED YET?".

Aaron Orendorff: So the ads in each one of these cases, right? Hair, skin, beauty, bloating, and then this is just one of my favorites that in my heart of hearts, I really hope that uh, Barry had something to do with. Have you pooped yet? Just one of my favorites, right? Okay.

The initial presentation slide returns: "Getting 'Small' to Go Big".

Aaron Orendorff: So, if you take nothing else away from my presentation today, I want you to constantly be thinking about yes, those creative, those ads on the front end, offers, audiences, and value propositions. How are you creating a through line so it it matches your audience at every step of the journey.

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